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UPDATE (an email from a heplful musician, cheers mate!):
you could tell the user with an mpc question that he can convert
wavs to the mpc. although you need the new upgrade from roger linn,
heres how it works... the new mpc60 software can convert mpc3000
files into mpc60 files. and if you use a software called AWAVE studio
you can convert wav files into MPC3000 files, then take that mpc3000(.snd)file
to your mpc60, it'll take a little longer to load cause its gotta
convert, the box is still good in todays world.
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J writes:
Hey, I emailed you guys yesterday and appreciated the help you gave
me. I would like to sign up and use the sounds that you have on
your site except for one thing, and maybe you can help me. I am
about to buy an MPC 60, the only problem is that I don't think I
will be able to use the sounds that I will get from your site because
the MPC 60 doesn't accept wave. I believe the only MPC that does
except wave is the 2000, but I am not trying to get that, I like
the compression on the 60. So I was wondering if there was a way
to get the sounds to be used on the MPC 60 or if there is another
sequencer that I can use as a bridge to transfer the wave files
to the MPC 60. If not is there just another bad ass sequencer out
there I should know about. I appreciate you reading this and hope
that you will be able to help me so I can sign up with you guys.
Thanx
AudioPervert writes:
Hi there again,
You could try the SCSI kit and O/S upgrade at http://www.rlinndesign.com/products/mpc60.shtml
, I am not sure if this would allow SCSI sample transfer between
a computer and the MPC60 or not, better ask them if you are interested.
The other way would be to transfer the samples via midi sample dump;
I had a quick rake about the internet, but couldn't find any info
on whether the MPC60 could do this. Last option is to resample into
the MPC60! You will loose quality, but maybe it would be ok, and
would impart that "MPC60" sound.
The MPC60 is a good box, however it is quite old now, and transferring
samples looks like it would be a problem. The sequencer is ok on
the MPC60, if a little basic by today's computer based standards.
(I used a MPC60 9 years ago!). For me, computer based sequencing
and sampling looks to be the way forward, but this isn't ideal for
live work. Any other sampler will have its own sound, (but maybe
not as good as a MPC60).
I hope this helps, please keep in touch,
audiopervert.com
J writes:
Hi, I'm the guy that keeps asking questions. I just want to say
thank you again for answering my questions so quickly every time
I have one. I am just trying to cover all of my tracks to make sure
the equipment that I buy will allow me to do what I want, and what
I want is to make sure I can use some of those sounds that are hard
if not impossible to find(like some on your site) . Since I don't
have 1900 dollars + to spend on a MPC 3000, I have to make a decision
between the 60 and 2000xl. If I upgrade the 60 with the OS option
then I gain more of the 3000 feel, without losing the great compression
sound. However there is no way I would be able to import wave files.
Is there a sampler that would allow me to record wave materials
and then just let me drop them into the 60's pads? Is the 60 even
capable of doing that? Or is the 2000 just a better choice, which
is wave compatible, but has weak sampler? Would the 60's sounds
that you guys have sound the same or would I just have to change
the compression on the 2000? I don't know obviously I have a lot
of questions, but you have to make sure before you drop a "G"
on equipment. If you know anything that you think might help my
situation, please let me know. Once again thanks, and look forward
to working with you guys in the future.
AudioPervert writes:
Hi again :-)
It is hard dropping a pile of money on gear, and samplers are especially
tricky to choose. Like I said, the MPC 60 is a good machine, but
it is nearly 15 years old now, so will be a bit "clunky"
and not really very straight forward to use for modern (i.e. computer)
methods. Did you look into the possibility of midi sample dump on
the MPC 60? This would be a way out (albeit slow). Also, there is
chicken systems translator, looks like they are going to do something
for the MPC http://www.chickensys.com/translator/akaimpc/ , but
it's not available yet, and will add to the cost. Still, this could
be an ideal way to get access to loads of sounds.
Another thing to remember is that the MPC 60 only writes to floppy
disk, which can be quite slow and unreliable compared to modern
storage (zip's etc), not to mention that you will need a lot of
disks to store your sounds. Also, the internal memory is quite small
on the MPC 60.
You have to think about the practicalities of the machine as well
as the sound. I am not sure how or where the MPC 60 "compresses"
the samples anyway, it may be only on the sample inputs, and therefore
an imported file won't sound the same. You have to weigh up the
pros and cons. Pro - the 60 sounds cool, its solid and it's a classic
machine... Cons - it's old, hard to integrate, and limited compared
to modern machines. Are there any other machines that would be good
to use? Are there some modern machines that sound natural and flat
enough that you could play back sampled MPC 60 sounds on? Can you
get access to all the MPC 60 samples you like to use this way? I
have heard that the Korg electrotribe sampler sounds good, although
it may be quite limited as well. What about a 2nd hand ensoniq or
yamaha box, I saw these around a couple of years ago; maybe you
could pick them up quite cheep.
To answer specific questions:
"Is there a sampler that would allow me to record wave materials
and then just let me drop them into the 60's pads?"
Maybe a MPC 2000 or 3000, none other I think. Possibly the Translator
program I was talking about would do it.
"Would the 60's sounds that you guys have sound the same or
would I just have to change the compression on the 2000?"
The "compression" sound of the MPC 60 was probably added
to increase the signal to noise ratio on the sample input. I don't
think there is any control over this. Although some samplers have
a compression algorithm in them (e.g. modern EMU samplers), this
is applied as an off line process, destructively, to each individual
sample. I don't think that any samplers have an inbuilt compressor
on the output that you can switch on and off at will. You would
have to use an external compressor to do this.
The MPC 60 samples at AudioPervert.com are sampled directly from
the output of the MPC 60, with no added external EQ or compression.
Playing these samples from the highest fidelity source possible
will give you the truest MPC 60 sound. Most hardware samplers have
a "sound" of their own, and so will colour the samples
to a greater or lesser extent. As an example, the AKAI S900 was
"grainy", S1000 a little less grainy, but still not totally
hi fi, and a bit funny on the lo end, S3000's have a lot middle,
present sound, the S5000 are broader sounding, and a bit "softer".
Emu samplers are possibly warmer sounding, although the attack may
be a little slow. I have heard that the Korg electrotribe sampler
sounds nice and punchy.
Ultimately, every piece of gear has limitations and faults, as well
as good points. Try and get to use the sampler for a while (an hour?
A day? A week?) To see if it is good for you. The longer you can
"demo" the product, the better, as you work through how
to get the most out of it, and get to know its "character".
Better still is to get 2 or more pieces of gear together and "audition"
them, at least a whole evening should be spent doing this, working
with the gear and comparing methods/ sounds etc. If you are buying
from a shop, they should let you have a good demo of the gear, and
let you return it in, say, 1 week if it's not what you want. Private
purchases can be more awkward, but ask and see what the individual
will let you do.
Good luck, ask again if you need more help!
Cheers,
AudioPervert.com
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